TV2 Custom Maps

[Masakari]

I'll colour-code my entries and try to add some reasoning behind each.

Red="Dear goodness, no!"
Yellow="Possibly/can't remember the map"
Green="Bring'er back!"


avanti_b1 - Dear god no. At least not until the timers are fixed.
cp_bloodstained - This was a good multistage CP map. Would be good to see it back.
cp_boulder_v5 - Don't remember this map...
cp_broma - Indifferent. Wouldn't be happy or sad either way.
cp_castle4 - Never liked it. Too large and too open for me.
cp_dogblu_b3 - Good multistage CP. Might want to have spawn times increased a little bit to make capping the last point possible.
cp_fragrun - Never played it, but it looks like it could be confusing for non-TFC players.
cp_gydan - Wasn't a fan, but I'll admit that I may be alone in that thinking.
cp_labor - Never played it, but looks interesting enough.
cp_wolf2_b1 - Never played it.
ctf_geothermal_b2 - This map is about twice as big as a ctf map should be.
ctf_hallofdeath - Don't remember playing it.
ctf_rocketcity - Don't remember it, but it looks fun.
pl_cranetop_b8 - Dear God no.
pl_dbheights - It'd be nice to get this map in.....but we really should wait until we thin out the existing payloads before trying to get it back on.
pl_happycow_z4 - Honestly, who doesn't like happycow?

[Plinko]

I need to look at some of those, I've never seen them before.

As for the ones I know:
Avanti - yes, I think we do need some version of Avanti somewhere until B's is fixed.
Boulder - No.
Broma - Yes
Dogblu - Maybe
Castle - NO NO PLEASE NO.
Gydan - Yes
Cranetop - No
DB_heights - Yes
Happycow - Maybe

Need to check out the rest later.

- I know I expressed fondness for Happycow before. However I need to put that in the same context as wacky races and balloon races - I think it would be a terrible idea to put it in the voting rotation. Actually - I'd put Avanti, Happycow and Dogblu in the category of - 'not in the voting rotation but available for an admin to put up on certain occasions' - say when it's 18 villuns on like last night.

I'd be all for testing some of the old ones again but unfortunately Wednesdays are no no for me.

[abiscuit]

Avanti - No
Bloodstained - No
Boulder - NO NO NO
Broma - Yes
Castle - No
Dogblu - No
Fragrun - Don't know
Gydan - Don't know
Labor - Yes
Wolf - Indifferent
Geothermal - Don't know
Hallofdeath - No
Rocketcity - Don't know
Cranetop - Indifferent
dbheights - No
Happycow - NO NO NO

[Supreveio]

Avanti - Maybe.
Bloodstained - No, thanks.
Boulder - Maybe.
Broma - Maybe.
Castle - Definite no.
Dogblu - Definite NOOOOO.
Fragrun - Never played it before.
Gydan - Yes, please.
Labor - Never played it before.
Wolf - No, thanks.
Geothermal - No, thanks.
HallofDeath - OH BOY SPAM. No.
RocketCity - No, thanks.
Cranetop - Maybe.
DBHeights - No, thanks.
Dynamite - No, thanks.
Happycow - Was a good shenanigans map. Should be brought back for shenanigan purposes only, and not on the voting

[Guardian]

avanti_b1 No... hate this map
cp_bloodstained AAAA NO BURN IT FIRE
cp_boulder_v5 I like that boulder that is a nice boulder
cp_broma sure why not
cp_castle4 I don't think so
cp_dogblu_b3 Stage 1 is a sniperfest and the other 2 just are plain
cp_fragrun What is this map?
cp_gydan Meh
cp_labor Na
cp_wolf2_b1 what's this.....
ctf_geothermal_b2
ctf_hallofdeath I barely remember this map... but I remember it being bad
ctf_rocketcity
pl_cranetop_b8 this map.... even though everyone else hates it.
pl_dbheights Meh
pl_dynamite6 I remember this being a very bland map
pl_happycow_z4 As many people have said this goes on the shannighan voting list, not in the rotation

[arfy4]

Happycow belongs in the rotation for being awesome. Hall of death is fun, and Dogblu was good.

[Cpt. Winky]

I really loved the idea of dogblu, but yikes you get picked off more than anchovies on pizza...

[TheCarpe]

Dogblu was fun for Snipers but not so much for everyone else. The idea of recreating the Normandy landing scenario was interesting, but it wouldn't have been so historic with teams of 12

And I always had fun on happycow. It wasn't the best map, but it was goofy and fun. A round of happycow filled with Villuns is how I remember the yet-to-be-duplicated great times of the old TV4.

[arfy4]

You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqCMV5yATg that video is versatile.

[Buzzy Beetle]

What I would recommend over re-using old maps the idea of scoping out and trying out new maps to see how they are. I'm certain there's been plenty of new content out that needs to be tried out.

It's not like the maps need to be perfect on the initial iteration (certainly they won't be properly balanced); we're not looking for the pinnacle of design at the first attempt here, people. After all, isn't that what the mapmakers want? Feedback? Proper feedback can't really be had without playing a map, and there is nothing else that will do aforementioned maps justice.

I believe the adage goes "rome wasn't built in a day."

That said, I recommend that we, instead, go to a map site and find a map that we'd like to try out on the customs server. New blood is good! I'ma go do that too now.



Also, to not derail the current idea so far... (luckily it looks like Biscuit shares alot of my views... so much so that I could pretty much copypasta his post and change a few things =P)

Avanti - No
Bloodstained - No
Boulder - Don't know
Broma - Yes
Castle - Yes
Dogblu - No
Fragrun - Don't know
Gydan - Don't know
Labor - Don't Know
Wolf - Indifferent
Geothermal - Don't know
Hallofdeath - Don't Know
Rocketcity - Don't know
Cranetop - Indifferent
dbheights - No
Happycow - NO NO NO

[arfy4]

Happycow hate,

[Flobee]

For my list, I have colour coded my opinions in much the same way as Masakari did, but on top of that, I have added a new colour. Black. Black is special. It's a whole new level below Red. It means "If this map were to take on a corporeal form, I would do terrible things to it with a pointy object."

avanti_b1 - Is that the old night time one with the church? Because I actually kinda miss playing on that map. It was fun with lots of villuns, regardless of the horrible balance issues.

cp_bloodstained - I wouldn't mind giving this map another try.

cp_boulder_v5 - Never liked it. Doubt I'll like it now.

cp_broma - Never liked this one either.

cp_castle4 - I would be up for playing it again sometime.

cp_dogblu_b3 - Nay, nay, oh dear God, one thousand times nay.

cp_fragrun - Though I've never played it, I'm always game to try new maps. Bring it on!

cp_gydan - No, thank you.

cp_labor - I wouldn't mind giving this map another go.

cp_wolf2_b1 - Sniperfest for the most part. Never really had an overly good time on it.

ctf_geothermal_b2 - Never played it so far as I can remember. Let's try it.

ctf_hallofdeath - No. Just no.

ctf_rocketcity - See ctf_hallofdeath

pl_cranetop_b8 - Not so fast, there, Stevo. You forgot to affix the warning label to this map. You know, the one that reads "Exposure to Cranetop can be hazardous to your health", thus affording the player a fighting chance to escape the waste and contamination that is...Cranetop.

pl_dbheights - I always remember this map being pretty unpopular. But who knows.

pl_happycow_z4 - Mooo! We must push little cow! But only sometimes! Maybe when we're in a bit of a goofy mood.

[arfy4]

WE MUST PUSH LITTLE COW!

[Buzzy Beetle]

From even doing a quick look over at FPS banana I'm seeing alot of KOTH maps. I'd like to suggest either we load some onto the customs server. Of course, there is another option of loading a bunch of custom KOTH maps onto the KOTH rotation server to give it some more variety. Yes, I have heard the argument against having customs and officials on the same rotation, so why not compromise by changing the server theme to Custom and/or Custom + Official KOTH maps so that people aren't put off by the idea of both being on the same server.

I mean, to not try all these maps out seems like such a missed opportunity...

[TheCarpe]

avanti_b1 - I say yes, I always enjoyed it and it's one of my favorite axe maps
cp_bloodstained - Don't remember it.
cp_boulder_v5 - If it's the map I think it is, then no. Never liked it.
cp_broma - Meh. Could take or leave.
cp_castle4 - Was a fan, some good times to be had, even if it wasn't the most well-designed of maps.
cp_dogblu_b3 - Could use some work, but I always had fun with it. Of course, I like Sniper too, which is pretty much a perquisite to like this map
cp_fragrun - Don't recall playing it.
cp_gydan - I played it a few times, neither loved nor hated it. Wouldn't mind playing it.
cp_labor - Don't remember.
cp_wolf2_b1 - Don't remember.
ctf_geothermal_b2 - Don't remember
ctf_hallofdeath - Don't remember it, but I recall not liking it
ctf_rocketcity - Never played.
pl_cranetop_b8 - Kill it with fire.
pl_dbheights - For someone who hates normal CP Dustbowl as much as I do, I love DBHeights. Bring it back!
pl_happycow_z4 - COW WILL NOT PUSH SELF!!