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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:24 am

Hioo fellas
As you know my old graph card blew all the way last year.
Now Iv been only able to browse the web with my backup card but it shall change finaly.

So the last card was All-in-wonder 9800 if I remember corretly.
Now Iv been looking at new cards or used ones and these are the ones Iv looked at
Radeon 9800 Pro and XT
Radeon HD 3650 AGP

But seems like 3650 needs 400w power suply and I only have 380w
I need a AGP card so it limits the choises.
Any recomendations for a card that can handle gaming.
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Post by Boss Llama » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:43 am

Depending on your budget, it may be worth upgrading the power supply to handle a better card. It will give you a little longer before the entire system has to be replaced.

AGP is hard to find products for these days. There is, believe it or not, an HD 3850 512MB made for the AGP bus.

Link: AGP 3850's

These are far and away the most powerful VGA cards made for the AGP bus. Make sure you have the most up to date drivers for your AGP slot, and stick one of these in - you should be able to handle modern games without issue.

I recommend this Power Supply to handle it: Corsair 450, though if you can afford the extra $20, I'd step up to the: Corsair 650




If you really don't want to change your PSU, look for: Radeon HD 2600XT
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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:54 am

Im mostly interested in a card that can handle tf2
The computer is coming up with it's 4th year so it's bit out of date :D
Just need to get some money together and buy a new in a year or two
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Re: Graph card help

Post by DeafOfficeWorker » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:33 am

I'm running an ATI x1600 AGP card right now. It runs TF2 just fine. 512MB of GDDR2. I can't wait to upgrade so I can start shopping for PCI-e cards. AGP is deader than Dillinger.
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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:43 am

seems like there is one place that sells sapphire Radeon X1650 Pro 512 M
only 50 euros
And there seems to be none that sell that Radeon HD 2600XT but Pro versions are still there but only with 256 M memory

How do those compair with each other
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Post by Boss Llama » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:15 pm

A X1650 Pro is roughly on par with a baseline 6800, a 7600 GS, or an X800. It'll make TF2 run, if you keep the options low and don't use a high resolution, but it won't be pretty.

A 2600XT is a few steps higher, roughtly on par with a 6800 Ultra, an 8600 GT, or a 3670. You'll want to keep the same low settings as above, but it'll run things a little more smoothly than that X1650, with fewer hiccups.

A 3850 like I mentioned above will be twice again better than the 2600XT is over the X1650. It's around equal to an 8800 GS or a 4670. It'll run things with no trouble at all, and will probably outrun your processor and ram unless those are better than normal for an AGP system. I guess it's pretty hard to find outside the US and Canada. Might have some sort of shipping restriction on it due to being a high-end computing item or something.

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Ok, found a couple over in the EU.

http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=gra256&asuch=3850

Also, as far as a specific one, I think this one at Amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/Sapphire-Radeon-38 ... 562&sr=8-1) can be shipped anywhere in the EU, unlike the ones on Amazon in the US and the UK. Need somebody who can read German to tell me if I missed a restriction. MMX might be able to assist in that realm.
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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:42 am

Its easy to find those newer parts in here.
So many computers per person so there are a lot of shops that sell those.
Its just that 3850 will not get used properly in my comp
Thats why I looked at 3650 that would be better used in this hunk of junk :D
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Post by mr_s » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:14 am

so, you got one yet?

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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:05 pm

Next week
I will be ordering monday so it will take a few days to arrive
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Re: Graph card help

Post by Clay Pigeon » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:37 pm

What brand 380w psu do you have currently?

If its an antec earthwatts you probably could swing the 3650.

I ran a 6800 for years with a 350 watt enermax psu, even though you were supposed to have a 400w psu for it.
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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:55 pm

Hmmm
All I can say that in the side it says
Antec True380SP

If that can handle it the card shopping will be a lot easyer
I would go and get the 3650 that I can have ready and running monday
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Post by X.O.Skeleton » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:01 pm

Thanks for the help and hints :)
Iv decided on the HD3650 512 from Club3d
Should have it tomorrow sometime in the afternoon
So hopefuly we shall see soon gaming
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Post by Boss Llama » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:02 pm

[quote="X.O.Skeleton";p="160617"]Thanks for the help and hints :)
Iv decided on the HD3650 512 from Club3d
Should have it tomorrow sometime in the afternoon
So hopefuly we shall see soon gaming[/quote]

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