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[Stevo]

So what we have here is a lame server, so we are here to bring it back to life. Thanks to Stutter, we now have a forum just for that purpose.

I asked Silver to post a current voting list so we have a starting place. The big thing we should do now is go over the list and add and remove some maps as needed. There are some new maps to check out as well.

Right away, we should remove all versions of Yukon from the server since it is stalk. It also appears that Camping Trip needs to go from the main rotation. I also would like to see the latest version of Avantiville taken out as well due to the glitch (maybe revert to the previous for now).

Other changes we talked about are to reduce spawn times (I suggested 15s max to start with), and raising the alltalk threshold (I suggested 12 players).

[John Doe]

Stevo, can you tell us how the spawn time settings work? What options do we have?

Also I like the alltalk idea being increased.

An idea that came to mind, and it may have came from someones posts in the admin forums is that we get a good rotation of say 6 solid maps, have another 6-10 available for voting for a total of say 16.

Then, every two weeks have a new custom map evaluation night where people are welcome to come try out the latest batches of new maps. We would post the maps ahead of time as well as locations to download, and if we could get them on fast download that would be great too

Then, after we play each map for 1/2 hour or more (how long do we need to figure out the map and give it a fair eval) we would have people provide feedback in the forums on said new maps and integrate them into the rotation.

Its a wee bit of work but I think it would make the community feel its involved and everyone would have a chance to voice their opinions.


JD

[Masakari]

[quote="Stevo";p="190195"]
Right away, we should remove all versions of Yukon from the server since it is stalk.[/quote]Celery or bean?

But seriously, I agree with all of the points brought up so far. Spawn times can be adjusted on a map-by-map basis, correct? I think a start of a 15 sec max time is a good general rule .

As well, I'd be willing to turn Circus nights into customs night. I think as long as we have one or two fun maps near the end/start of the night, people will still come.

[Stevo]

Yeah, that sounds like a good thing for circus night. I really think we should avoid overthinking the map choosing process. Just throw maps in the voting and see what sticks. Of course, we'll have a thread open for feedback and we have map ratings to go by.

As far as spawn times, I'm not sure exactly how that works. There are a few different plugins that work differently.

Edit: It appears that this is the plugin we use http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=611953
You can set each team's spawn time.

[Masakari]

Well, when you set mp_respawnwavetime, does that adjust the map-specific spawns if there are any, or does it override anything set?

[Stevo]

That Cvar just sets the time between spawn waves. The actual spawn times are controlled by a few other factors as well, so we just use the plugin to modify them.

[SilverOne]

Maps in the maps.ini (voting maps)

cp_freight_final
pl_stovepipe_b3
ctf_camping_trip_b8
ctf_aurora_rc
cp_desertfortress
cp_waste_final
cp_yukon_rc4
ctf_avantiville_b29
cp_follower
cp_furnace_b3
cp_glacier_rc
pl_halfacre
pl_mill_b5

maps in the adminmenu_maplist

tc_hydro
plr_pipeline
pl_mill_b5
pl_hoodoo_final
pl_goldrush
pl_dbheights_b2
pl_cranetop_b8
pl_cave_b6
pl_cashworks_rc2
pl_badwater
ctf_aurora_rc
ctf_well_classic_b1
ctf_well
ctf_timbertown_b2
ctf_turbine
ctf_steamroll
ctf_quarry
ctf_mach4
ctf_chaos
ctf_casbah
ctf_badlands_classic_b3e
ctf_2fort_classic_v1
ctf_2fort
cp_well
cp_warpath_v3
cp_toy_fort
cp_steel
cp_raiden
cp_observatory4
cp_lazytown_e
cp_junction_final
cp_gydan
cp_gravelpit
cp_granary
cp_glacier_rc
cp_freight_final
cp_figer5_b1
cp_fastlane
cp_fallout
cp_egypt_final
cp_dustbowl
cp_desertfortress
cp_corporation_b3
cp_broma
cp_boulder_v5
cp_badlands
arena_well
arena_watchtower
arena_ravine
arena_lumberyard
arena_granary
arena_badlands
arena_harvest_v2
wacky_races_v2
tc_meridian_b4
pl_waste_b4
pl_stovepipe_b3
pl_swift_final
pl_woodland_b4
ctf_wintervalley_a1
ctf_switch
ctf_snofort_final
ctf_outpost
ctf_impact2
ctf_geothermal_b2
ctf_crossunder
ctf_camping_trip_b3
ctf_barn
ctf_aerospace_b4
cp_tunnel_v2
cp_switchback_b5
cp_ironbowl_b8
cp_erosion_b7
cp_dock2_v1
cp_blaststone_silo_b2
cp_blackmesa
cp_beetle_b1
cp_yukon_rc4
pl_halfacre
cp_waste_final
ctf_camping_trip_b8
ctf_avantiville_b29
cp_matterhorn_a11
ctf_fishy_b9
cp_seth
cp_abordight_test4
cp_follower
cp_furnace_b3
cp_oilfield_v2
cp_silvertrail_b2
pl_borax_b2
arena_desolation_pb1
pl_frontier
arena_storm_b1


mapcycle

cp_freight_final
cp_fallout
cp_follower
cp_observatory4
ctf_camping_trip_b8
pl_hoodoo_final

[Stevo]

Thanks. Here are the changes I propose for the voting list:

Remove:
cp_yukon_rc4
ctf_camping_trip_b8
ctf_avantiville_b29
ctf_aurora_rc
cp_follower
cp_furnace_b3
cp_waste_final

Add:
cp_toy_fort
cp_observatory4
cp_corporation_b3
pl_frontier
pl_waste_b4

New Maps:
cp_furnace_b4 http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=5889
cp_overdust http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=8959
pl_outback_b9 http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=7715
cp_indulge_b3 http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=8471
ctf_casbah3_b4 http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/92490

Result List:
cp_freight_final
pl_stovepipe_b3
cp_desertfortress
pl_waste_b4
cp_furnace_b4
cp_glacier_rc
pl_halfacre
pl_mill_b5
cp_toy_fort
cp_observatory4
cp_corporation_b3
pl_frontier
cp_overdust
pl_outback_b9
cp_indulge_b3
ctf_casbah3_b4


I'm not sure if the rotation has any effect, so I won't bother with that list. Thoughts?

[Stevo]

I assume silence means no complaints? Should we go with this?

[Masakari]

I'd like to see ctf_casbah3 or ctf_mach4 just simply for the sake of having a ctf map (I think casbah3 is a better choice than mach4 personally). I'd rather have that than pl_waste personally.

[Stevo]

Mach4 is pretty small and seems to always come down to a dead ringer spy slowly moving the intel out since the spy update. I don't really hear much positive or negative while playing Casbah and the new version isn't rated, so I guess we should try that out. It just seems like CTF isn't well liked in general.

[Stevo]

Alright, I sent the list to Silver along with these settings:

maprate_autorate_time 600 // Shows the map rating menu automatically after 10 minutes
maprate_autorate_delay 1 // Shows the rate menu only after the player dies
sm_alltalk_limit 14 // Turns alltalk off at 14 players