Lag on TV8

Post by **Dog** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:09 pm

A few people have been complaining of lag issues on TV8.
It's not the first time.
I want to submit a ticket to GameServers for them to look at it.

For those of you experiencing the lag, I need a tracert.

# Step 1. Start->run and then type in 'cmd' in the box.
# Step 2. Type 'tracert 63.210.145.203' in the window.

Copy and paste the info below.

I also need times of when it happens: evenings? all the time?

I'll submit this data to GameServers to help them figure out what is up.

BlingMa$ter · Post by **IMP!-6** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:57 pm

Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 10.48.96.1
2 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms ip68-2-2-85.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.2.85]
3 10 ms 31 ms 12 ms 70.169.73.41
4 39 ms 30 ms 27 ms langbbr01-ae0.r2.la.cox.net [68.1.0.232]
5 49 ms 62 ms 43 ms xe-1-3-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.22]
6 51 ms 56 ms 46 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
7 57 ms 53 ms 52 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
8 57 ms 58 ms 55 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

I seem to experience lag more often later at night on the server. Around 10pm PST and after it seems to be worse for me at least.

Post by **Gizanked** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:50 pm

it seems to come in chunks... and everyone complains at once. its not just a slowdown sometimes its choppy 1fps for upward of 5 -10 seconds sometimes.

my tracert wrote:
Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 10.166.96.1
2 6 ms 10 ms 7 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.52.4]
3 8 ms 17 ms 8 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.48.57]
4 8 ms 11 ms 8 ms 96.34.2.22
5 40 ms 52 ms 41 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.chi1.bbnplanet.net [4.79.74.1]
6 43 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-31-55.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.158]

7 53 ms 52 ms 44 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.140.190]
8 53 ms 54 ms 53 ms ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
9 59 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
10 62 ms 54 ms 54 ms ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
11 50 ms 53 ms 63 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.142]

12 51 ms 48 ms 49 ms ae-2-79.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net [4.68.19.76]
13 48 ms 76 ms 47 ms xe-1-2-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [4.59.36.58]
14 50 ms 50 ms 65 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
15 48 ms 55 ms 50 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
16 49 ms 50 ms 47 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

BIG CAULK · Post by **bigcaulk** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:54 pm

how do i copy and paste from the cmd screen?

Post by **Masakari** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:17 pm

Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 216-197-220-1.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca [216.197.2
20.1]
2 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 71-17-124-2.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca [71.17.124.2
]
3 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms po-0-1-3-0.REGN01D29P1.core.sasktel.net [142.165
.60.129]
4 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms po-0-1-3-0.SKTN01D52P1.core.sasktel.net [142.165
.60.130]
5 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms gi-5-2.sktn01d35gw4.core.sasktel.net [142.165.60
.158]
6 53 ms 52 ms 52 ms so-9-1.car2.Toronto2.Level3.net [4.59.182.1]
7 51 ms 52 ms 53 ms ae-11-11.car1.Toronto2.Level3.net [4.69.140.249]

8 67 ms 70 ms 72 ms ae-8-8.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.245]
9 69 ms 68 ms 68 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.140.190]
10 92 ms 104 ms 91 ms ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
11 92 ms 92 ms 103 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
12 106 ms 105 ms 108 ms ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
13 105 ms 107 ms 107 ms ae-92-92.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.150]

14 108 ms 106 ms 105 ms ae-4-99.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net [4.68.19.204]
15 105 ms 105 ms 104 ms xe-1-2-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [4.59.36.58]
16 102 ms 103 ms 104 ms 69.31.63.126
17 105 ms 103 ms 103 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
18 103 ms 104 ms 103 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

Post by **dredfox** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:27 am

[quote="bigcaulk";p="164392"]how do i copy and paste from the cmd screen?

[/quote]

Right click and choose 'Select all'. Then hit Enter.

Paste as usual into your favorite text editor.

Post by **=|ZAG|= bulldeezee** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:41 am

Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 6 ms 7 ms 8 ms 73.104.196.1
3 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms 68.86.113.5
4 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be-50-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.
96.213]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms pos-0-6-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.90.221]
6 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms pos-0-0-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.205]
7 257 ms 46 ms 249 ms TenGigabitethernet1-4.ar5.SEA1.gblx.net [64.209.
111.93]
8 68 ms 69 ms 68 ms xe-4-3-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.214]
9 69 ms 69 ms 69 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
10 69 ms 69 ms 67 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
11 69 ms 69 ms 69 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

Novacaine · Post by **Novacaine** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:00 am

its only gotten REAL bad in the last week or so:

Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms te-1-1-ur04.romeoville.il.chicago.comcast.net [6
8.86.118.217]
3 10 ms 9 ms 11 ms be-70-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.2
30.121]
4 12 ms 10 ms 12 ms pos-0-10-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.90.45]
5 14 ms 11 ms 74 ms xe-9-2-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.248.25]

6 10 ms 9 ms 11 ms vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.138.158]
7 34 ms 35 ms 35 ms ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
8 37 ms 36 ms 36 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
9 52 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
10 44 ms 49 ms 53 ms ae-62-62.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.138]

11 44 ms 45 ms 45 ms ae-1-69.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net [4.68.19.12]
12 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms xe-1-2-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [4.59.36.58]
13 46 ms 47 ms 45 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
14 46 ms 46 ms 50 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
15 45 ms 45 ms 44 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

Post by **mr_s** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:43 am

I get it the same as these guys.

[quote="Gizanked";p="164390"]
it seems to come in chunks... and everyone complains at once. its not just a slowdown sometimes its choppy 1fps for upward of 5 -10 seconds sometimes.

[/quote]

also, what Giz said.

Thank you Dog for doing something about it.
I'm a long way away, so it doesnt really matter what time these guys are playing, but usually server time says around 20:00 - 01:30

Avar · Post by **Avar** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:45 am

I personally don't think this is network lag related. I usually run with a 5-8 ping (yes start flaming) and still get the lag without any spikes to my ping. Do you now if the server is multi-homed with other server(s)?

At work now and will post a tracert tonight so you can see my 1 hop to the server I'm sitting on.

Also I noticed the worst lag, whatever it is, occured the strongest around 8:30-9pm CST.

Post by **=|ZAG|= bulldeezee** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:19 am

[quote="Avar";p="164436"]
I personally don't think this is network lag related. I usually run with a 5-8 ping (yes start flaming) and still get the lag without any spikes to my ping. Do you now if the server is multi-homed with other server(s)?

At work now and will post a tracert tonight so you can see my 1 hop to the server I'm sitting on.

Also I noticed the worst lag, whatever it is, occured the strongest around 8:30-9pm CST.
[/quote]

We need to take the server out of Avar's closet, it's obvious that he causes the lag when his team needs it by kicking the cord!

Sh!fty · Post by **Shifty** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:42 am

The server is most definitely got other games running on it. Gameservers may have over stacked this particular server, or other servers running fill up at the same time TV8 is full.

It definitely doesn't seem like a latency thing, it's more like everything just gets completely bogged down for several seconds, voice chat still works fine as far as I can tell. I always hear multiple people moaning during the spike.

Post by **TheCarpe** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:42 am

Spike actually made me crash with the "buffer overflow" message a couple days ago, and it looked as though about 6 people got dumped on that spike. I've not noticed any pattern to them since I play at all different times, but when it hits, it hits hard.

----------------

Tracing route to unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms L100.DSL-01.ERIEPA.verizon-gni.net [71.116.16.1]

3 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms at-1-1-1-1713.CORE-RTR2.PITT2.verizon-gni.net [1
30.81.36.102]
4 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms so-7-0-0-0.CORE-RTR1.PITT2.verizon-gni.net [130.
81.18.254]
5 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms as2-0.RES-BB-RTR1-RE1.20.81.130.in-addr.arpa [13
0.81.20.92]
6 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 130.81.17.197
7 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms tge4-1.ar2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.30.37]
8 37 ms 36 ms 44 ms ae4.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.185]
9 52 ms 50 ms 81 ms xe-0-2-0.cr1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.105]

10 72 ms 72 ms 72 ms tge1-2.ar1.iah1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.117]
11 71 ms 71 ms 71 ms tge3-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.114]
12 71 ms 71 ms 71 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
13 71 ms 71 ms 71 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Trace complete.

Post by **neon** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:19 am

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms . [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms adsl-99-139-51-254.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [99.
139.51.254]
3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 64.164.107.1
4 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 151.164.93.229
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 151.164.38.59
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms asn4436-nlayer.pxpaca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.251
.34]
7 11 ms 10 ms 34 ms ae0.cr1.pao1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.153.18]
8 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae1-40g.cr1.sjc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.143.165]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms xe-1-2-0.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.53]
10 67 ms 67 ms 98 ms xe-1-3-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.22]
11 67 ms 67 ms 66 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
12 67 ms 67 ms 88 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
13 66 ms 67 ms 66 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Big difference between 9 and 10, might be time to complain to the server host.

YouTube · Post by **Stevo** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:47 am

[quote="neon";p="164488"]
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms . [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms adsl-99-139-51-254.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [99.
139.51.254]
3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 64.164.107.1
4 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 151.164.93.229
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 151.164.38.59
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms asn4436-nlayer.pxpaca.sbcglobal.net [151.164.251
.34]
7 11 ms 10 ms 34 ms ae0.cr1.pao1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.153.18]
8 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae1-40g.cr1.sjc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.143.165]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms xe-1-2-0.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.53]
10 67 ms 67 ms 98 ms xe-1-3-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.22]
11 67 ms 67 ms 66 ms po3.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.126]
12 67 ms 67 ms 88 ms as20473.tge5-2.ar1.dfw1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.63.
38]
13 66 ms 67 ms 66 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.145.203]

Big difference between 9 and 10, might be time to complain to the server host.
[/quote]
9 is Los Angeles and 10 is Dallas, so that's normal.

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