avoid creative

[Clay Pigeon]

Wow, given creative's vista driver problem you would think that they would hire someone that was able to fix their issues. Instead you get this:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... er-debacle


see also:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl ... /29/046201

edit: almost forgot. be careful of what links you click if reading slashdot, and don't view at -1 as there WILL be naughty language.

[Masakari]

I'm torn. Personally, I've always loved Creative for their superior sound quality as opposed to most integrated sound, but this article definitely proves that they don't give a crap about anyone. Sound cards are their major market, and if they aren't going to fight to keep people coming to them, they don't deserve any amount of sales.

[YevGenie]

Can someone break that down into lay-mans terms? theres a lot of technical jargon I don't get

[Stevo]

[quote="YevGenie";p="81843"]Can someone break that down into lay-mans terms? theres a lot of technical jargon I don't get [/quote]
Creative won't fix their drivers for Vista and they forced someone that made working drivers to remove all their links.

[MrBlah]

well... that probably why i can't run C&C Generals on my computer....i was able to determine it was the Creative driver... but wtf...

[Clay Pigeon]

[quote="Stevo";p="81846"][quote="YevGenie";p="81843"]Can someone break that down into lay-mans terms? theres a lot of technical jargon I don't get [/quote]
Creative won't fix their drivers for Vista and they forced someone that made working drivers to remove all their links.[/quote]

Because he was able to make free drivers that provided features that creative charged 9.99 for to get working in vista, even though the features worked fine for free in xp. There is also a deceptive advertising issue somewhere in there with the forced designed-obsolesence business model, as creative said their products were vista ready, when they really were not.

I suspect the fallout of this will include lots of consumer protection lawsuits brought by attornies general and other watch dog groups, not to mention a sharp loss in sales in the discrete sound market to competitors like asus

[LJ]

I understand why everyone is mad at creative over it but most people neglect to mention that this person was asking for donations for what he wrote. That's a bit stupid imo. You shouldn't ask for donations on something you don't own.

[Stevo]

[quote="LJ";p="82107"]I understand why everyone is mad at creative over it but most people neglect to mention that this person was asking for donations for what he wrote. That's a bit stupid imo. You shouldn't ask for donations on something you don't own.[/quote]
I thought the donations were for the work he did to improve the drivers, not the original drivers.

[DeafOfficeWorker]

I'm having issues with my creative soundcard on XP. I too have always loved their stuff, but...

Might be time to dust off the AK to make another statement.

[Gen.Ben]

I have a pimp creative sound card that worked great in XP. It didn't work with Vista. One of the many reasons I am back on XP.

[Archon]

creative makes good cards. but their driver support is the worst ever. forcing daniel_k to stop making fixed drivers for vista i think is mostly cause he was asking for donations for his work. but its made a lot of people think that they purposely leave features broke in vista to make people buy their new x-fi cards.

they should have just hired the guy. he alone has done what the entire company and its resources cant...or wont do.

[Kalakaua]

What other sound card maker is good and can work with vista? I can't stand integrated audio and I'm thinking of Vista but refused because my creative audio card won't work. I was hoping the vista drivers would fix all that but apparently from the article it doesn't. So I'm back at square 1.

[mr_s]

Stupid people...


Why not just get that guy to work FOR them instead of AGAINST them

[Clay Pigeon]

[quote="Kalakaua";p="82417"]What other sound card maker is good and can work with vista? I can't stand integrated audio and I'm thinking of Vista but refused because my creative audio card won't work. I was hoping the vista drivers would fix all that but apparently from the article it doesn't. So I'm back at square 1.[/quote]

M-audio, turtle beach, asus, and several others all are competitors with creative. I do not know that much about them, though.

Auzentech is actually a creative partner, and they use creative drivers with their soundcards so it would be best to avoid them as well.

[Archon]

[quote="Kalakaua";p="82417"]What other sound card maker is good and can work with vista? I can't stand integrated audio and I'm thinking of Vista but refused because my creative audio card won't work. I was hoping the vista drivers would fix all that but apparently from the article it doesn't. So I'm back at square 1.[/quote]

i hear Auzentech make good cards. their newest one actually uses the creative x-fi chip. they also make cards with c-media chips. razar also makes a sound card called razer baracuda which i hear is also good.