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Good idea????

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:43 am
by TACOBELL
Problem.

Graphics card too weak, Integrated geforce 6150le, running source with no eye candy at 22fps. and my tower is too small to fit a normal graphics card

Solution.?

i was thinking since i care only about preformance and not looks. i was thinking would it be safe to cut my tower out where the graphics needs to go and just have it hang out, maybe make a lexan cover so it doesnt get bumped or something?

i want at least 80fps with the eye candy and i want a 8800 ultra but it wont fit, so is my solution ok?


or i was also thinking buying a different tower but thats just getting to be too much $$$$ with the card, plus i like the tower i got

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:57 am
by mujo
Any time you cut into your tower and alter the airflow you risk overheating components. Especially if you're considering installing a higher-end graphics card.

Get a new case if you ask me. You can get half-way decent ones for around $50 with out a power supply. Or you could just get one with a power supply for around $100.

If thats not an option, they do have "low profile" graphics cards available now. No idea how powerful and what models are offered though. Check out www.newegg.com

If you have any other questions, go to MicroCenter down in columbus, alot of helpful people there :wink: or you could bug JD too :wink:

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:48 am
by Deslock
Get a new tower. Cutting up your current one isn't worth the hassle.

Here's two I've been looking at:


http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a ... 6811166038
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a ... 6811166027

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:23 pm
by Clay Pigeon
We dont know enough about his current tower to judge whether or not he has proprietary components that would complicate things. Assuming he doesn't, then a new tower/psu/video card would be ideal. I say new psu just because most OEM systems dont come with lots of power to spare and most new video cards guzzle power like an Abrams guzzles fuel.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:51 pm
by Gen.Ben
Taco, would you mind posting a picture of the inside of your case, because I am thinking even if you do cut your case, the CPU fan would be blocking the space to put a two slot card in anyways. That is, if it is a small form factor motherboard like a Mini ATX or BTX.

Also, if you want 80 FPS at full settings, there are alot of single slot cards out there that can pump out those FPS no problem, such as a 7900GS, but post pictures so we can tell you what the best route to go with would be.

Also, I think a 8800 Ultra is too expensive, especially for a first gen DX10 Card, I'd stick with a 8800 GTS, or even a GTX. at least until more DX10 games release and DX10 is more perfected. Then you could easily purchase a new case, mobo, PSU and whatnot with the money you saved from not getting a Ultra.

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:44 pm
by Simple
Get the angle grinder out and hack away ...lol Act like you are chasing JD around with a shovel and he just stole you're last chocolate cookie. TeeHeeHee






















On a side note some pics would be good to see what you have....lol

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:07 pm
by The Tiju
"On a side note some pics would be good to see what you have....lol"

i read that completely outta context and it kinda killed my inner child

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:29 pm
by MrBlah
[quote="Clay Pigeon";p="37846"]
We dont know enough about his current tower to judge whether or not he has proprietary components that would complicate things. Assuming he doesn't, then a new tower/psu/video card would be ideal. I say new psu just because most OEM systems dont come with lots of power to spare and most new video cards guzzle power like an Abrams guzzles fuel.
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btx is not a small formfactor, its the same sixe as ATX, just opposite back panel config


i would get a new case and a GTX, thats yur best solution

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:35 pm
by Simple
No NO NO angle grinder and a sledge hammer much more fun and satisifing :D :bash: :onfire: :2gunfire: :icon_bomb: :bad-words: :icon_ultragrin:

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:13 pm
by Gen.Ben
[quote="MrBlah";p="37923"]
[quote="Clay Pigeon";p="37846"]
We dont know enough about his current tower to judge whether or not he has proprietary components that would complicate things. Assuming he doesn't, then a new tower/psu/video card would be ideal. I say new psu just because most OEM systems dont come with lots of power to spare and most new video cards guzzle power like an Abrams guzzles fuel.
[/quote]
btx is not a small formfactor, its the same sixe as ATX, just opposite back panel config


i would get a new case and a GTX, thats yur best solution
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BTX, small form factor or whatever you want to call it. I have one in my dell, and no matter what case it is in will not be able to fit a dual slot card such as a 8800. The CPU fan is blocking it.

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:58 am
by Clay Pigeon
Im still concerned about how much power his 12 volt rail(s) have on his computer.

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:07 am
by TACOBELL
how do i find out that beeron

Re: Good idea????

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:20 am
by Simple
heh were did Beeron respond ?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:22 am
by DeafOfficeWorker
[quote="mujo";p="37840"]
Get a new case if you ask me. You can get half-way decent ones for around $50 with out a power supply. Or you could just get one with a power supply for around $100. [/quote]

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:31 pm
by Gen.Ben
I would have to agree with mujo and DOW, that probably would be your best bet. Dont get a case with a crappy powersupply in it! If you are going to get a case with a PSU in it allready, make sure it is a good brand like antec or corsair!

[quote="TACOBELL";p="37993"]
how do i find out that beeron
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It probably doesnt matter how much power your 12 volt rails put out on your PSU because it probably is 250-300 watts which can not power a 8800, look for a quality 520-620 watt psu.