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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by Flash » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:55 pm

stujitsu wrote:I have heard that most home routers are really bad when it comes to the ammount of bandwidth they actually provide compaired to what they say they do.
Here is a nice chart listing throughput for various routers.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/r ... harts/view

Mateo's Time Capsule is basically an Airport Extreme with a hard drive and has some pretty impressive numbers.

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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by MateoTheBold! » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:25 am

OK, so the Memtest went fine. Should I rerun some of the TF2 tests using netgraph4/5 or just know to use them in the future instead of netgraph1?

At this point I will now use the old router for a bit and if that doesn't help, I need to check the client rates per Gator and also the MTU per Stujitsu. How would one check MTU and what am I looking for?

And I agree with Flash, unless some funky setting has changed, the router's thoroughput is enough for Zook and I. Just 1.5 weeks ago we were both gaming on it fine and we have been gaming on it fine for months before that (before the reformat of my computer).


Sigh, why do I have a sneaky suspicion that another reformat is in the works for me?


And a BIG thank you to everyone for the help.
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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by l3eeron » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:16 am

I've seen windows not install correctly.


One time my boss bought my a laptop. He called his computer "shop", some place called PC Connections, and ordered one for me. When it was ready I picked it up after work, brought it home and fired it up. Could not for the life of me get it to see any networks, wireless or LAN...

I finally got fed up and brought it back. I told them they needed to reinstall windows, that I had already tried this-this-and-that. The next day when I picked it back up, they offered me a job! :lol:



Anyways, my point was, the guy told me he installed windows and handed it over. So windows just hosed itself during the install somehow. :?

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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by Stevo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:01 am

net_graph 4 will give you choke, loss, and server stats, which are important details. It might be helpful to run the game with that while you get the lag and watch those stats.

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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by stujitsu » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:32 pm

MateoTheBold! wrote:At this point I will now use the old router for a bit and if that doesn't help, I need to check the client rates per Gator and also the MTU per Stujitsu. How would one check MTU and what am I looking for?
The MTU on my router is on the main settings page and is easy to change. In Windows you can find it in your network card drivers and might be tricky to find. I think there is a wasy to edit the registry, but I can't remember exactly how.

There are two other possible causes, but I doubt it, they are kinda far fetched.

One would be that the hard drive is trying to write to damaged sectors and didn't write correctly in the sectors that your network driver data is stored on the hard drive. This happens far more than you would think but the drive typically fixes these problems on the fly by moving data to easier to read sectors. So you rarely every see problems caused by this unless the drive has serious problems reading certian areas before it was able to move the data. This happens on the drives controller board and is not controlled by Windows in any way. To fix these problems you need special software that runs before Windows boots and can take a LONG time to fix any errors.

The other could be malware that has tried to change your internet settings. Malware is doing some crazy stuff thses days and will often change networking settings in the registry to cause the user to do something or to prevent itself from being removed. So I don't really think that would be the problem because you typically see (but not always) some out of place message asking you to run something fraudulent to "fix" the problem.

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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by MateoTheBold! » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:33 am

It pains me to say it, but TVR fixed my problem for me. I used Stevo's netgraph 4 to give me the choke data, which was bouncing around at 50-80 for a baseline and was rising even higher when more players showed up.

In game, Stujitsu and Flash gave me advice for some things to try and it ended up being fixed! The culprit?

The stupid steam setting where it asks you your internet speed. I had set it to cable modem but apparently it got bumped down to the setting above a modem. Steam thought my internet connection was slower then it was.
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Re: [Edit: Fixed! ]Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by metacide » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:54 pm

TVR for the win!
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Re: [Edit: Fixed! ]Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by MateoTheBold! » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:54 pm

Yes.......*cough*....(pained silence)......kudos to....(pause)..... TVR. I owe my online gaming to the kindness of TVR.
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Re: Help Meee! Laggy!

Post by Stevo » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:58 pm

MateoTheBold! wrote:The stupid steam setting where it asks you your internet speed. I had set it to cable modem but apparently it got bumped down to the setting above a modem. Steam thought my internet connection was slower then it was.
Wow, that still happens? I probably should have suggested that, but figured it was fixed years ago...

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