Sony admits Playstation network hacked. Data Stolen.
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Anyone. No matter how secure you are, if someone wants in, they are going to get in eventually. Banks with guards still get robbed, prisons still have escapes, Brinks protected homes still get robbed.
It's like that line from Casino. . "You beat Nicky with fists, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back, and back, until one of you is dead"
If they want it, they'll find a way to get it.
It's like that line from Casino. . "You beat Nicky with fists, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back, and back, until one of you is dead"
If they want it, they'll find a way to get it.
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TheCarpe wrote:Also, knowing that 70 million people's personal information was compromised and waiting a week before even acknowledging it is pretty bad PR. I mean it's bad news to start with, but every day they sat on it made it worse.
While Sony discovered that hackers had broken into their Playstation Network on April 19, it wasn't until nearly a week later that the company understood the full scope of the breach, a Sony official tells Kotaku.
The company learned that customer data was stolen on Monday, only after an outside security firm conducted days of forensic analysis, Sony said.
"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised," Seybold said. "We learned there was an intrusion April 19th and subsequently shut the services down.
"We then brought in outside experts to help us learn how the intrusion occurred and to conduct an investigation to determine the nature and scope of the incident. It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis, and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach. We then shared that information with our consumers and announced it publicly this afternoon."
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Indeed. What can be done, can be undone. However... We're talking a multimillion (billion?) dollar company versus ... what, Individuals? Ok, granted we still don't know that it wasn't an international cartel of super genius' bent on world domination but for the sake of an arguement ....Gonzo wrote:Anyone. No matter how secure you are, if someone wants in, they are going to get in eventually. Banks with guards still get robbed, prisons still have escapes, Brinks protected homes still get robbed.
It's like that line from Casino. . "You beat Nicky with fists, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back, and back, until one of you is dead"
If they want it, they'll find a way to get it.
Sure I lurve that fantasy of the world of the intertubes being such a level playing field but seriously, it's not.
If you put some thought and effort in you may not make a system perfectly safe but you can make it so stupidly hard to crack it's not worth the ridiculous amount of effort needed to succeed. Though that would take spending money.
For me, this whole episode makes Sony look like a dumb corporation that's just out to make stuff as cheap as they can and sell it for as much as they can and then roll around naked on the resulting pile of cash. Instead of the forward looking tech savvy corporation it's media spin paints it as.
It's embarrassing for Sony and it's "frustrating" for their customers who will "of course" have absolutely no comeback against Sony whatsoever. :/
I say fire up the torches and get some good stout rope. String 'em up nice and high. It's the only way they'll learn.
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When this first started going around there were rumors that it was the Steam integration into PSN that allowed the hackers in. Just a rumor, but...
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This is hard to be cool and suave while being informative at the same time. Goddamn my coolness.
In my experience, common sense isn't too common.
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Let the mindless legions of Sony hating trolls unite!
Remember in the old days, the video game machine would simply eat our quarters?
Remember in the old days, the video game machine would simply eat our quarters?
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Zork Nemesis wrote:http://kotaku.com/#!5796375/and-the-psn ... eady-filed
Lol......No dollar figure is cited in the complaint, but it seeks the full range of damages – compensatory, statutory, and punitive. And lawyers’ fees, too.
Hey I want some of that too!
.... wait, let me go buy a PS3. I'll be right back .....
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If you got a PSP on the network, you could also be eligible.EmbraceThePing wrote: .... wait, let me go buy a PS3. I'll be right back .....
This is hard to be cool and suave while being informative at the same time. Goddamn my coolness.
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Awesome.Zork Nemesis wrote:If you got a PSP on the network, you could also be eligible.EmbraceThePing wrote: .... wait, let me go buy a PS3. I'll be right back .....
Hey maybe theres a iPhone app for it instead? Then I wouldn't have to even buy a PSP.
No wait ... that's Apple. Apple wouldn't do an app for a rival network. What was I thinking.
..... it would be an Android app
...but I'd still have to buy a new phone. meh.
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*Dim lights, cue intimate music*So the only way they could get hacked is if the hacker got physical contact with your system.
It's time to get physical with your hardware baby.
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Most of what I am seeing on the net is uneducated poo from some goober interviewed at WalMart who likely once had a Walkman eat their Duran Duran tape and never looked back. Or some random 12 year old chanting, "XBox pwns, down with Sony!! What's for dinner Mom?" A fair amount of the people moaning are not even customers who's info is compromised, like myself. I get that folks are upset and that's justified, but some of the rhetoric out there is beyond simple ignorance.
Sony waited a week to tell customers and that's news to people? Like Toyota told us their brakes had an issue right away? Or Ford said, "might want to watch getting rearended in that Pinto". Or perhaps when Delta said, "yeah some of these wires could burn in flight". And that's death at stake, not bad credit. In a perfect world maybe they would all tell us right away, but never in this one.
Anyone who thinks their information is safe anywhere online, is completely naive. You take a risk putting it anywhere these days, anywhere. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and certainly into a video gaming machine. lol Your mail isn't safe shredded up in trash cans these days! Anyone who believes an infallible computer program can be created by man, is again completely naive. There is always a way in and someone will eventually either find that way in or create a way in. It's what we humans do, we find a way. It's what hackers live for, the challenge. The harder you make it to crack, the more interested they are in cracking it, the more glory in it. History has proven and Wikileaks has recently demonstrated that you do not even need hacks, just one pissed off or complacent employee.
In the end, we humans are like the cast of Gilligan's Island. Sure, we can create a television out of bamboo, coconuts and palm trees but it's the two foot hole in the boat that often gives us the most problems.
My home is full of Sony electronics and I do not shop at WalMart. That is my rant, I'm off to play Katamari on my PS3.
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Sony waited a week to tell customers and that's news to people? Like Toyota told us their brakes had an issue right away? Or Ford said, "might want to watch getting rearended in that Pinto". Or perhaps when Delta said, "yeah some of these wires could burn in flight". And that's death at stake, not bad credit. In a perfect world maybe they would all tell us right away, but never in this one.
Anyone who thinks their information is safe anywhere online, is completely naive. You take a risk putting it anywhere these days, anywhere. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and certainly into a video gaming machine. lol Your mail isn't safe shredded up in trash cans these days! Anyone who believes an infallible computer program can be created by man, is again completely naive. There is always a way in and someone will eventually either find that way in or create a way in. It's what we humans do, we find a way. It's what hackers live for, the challenge. The harder you make it to crack, the more interested they are in cracking it, the more glory in it. History has proven and Wikileaks has recently demonstrated that you do not even need hacks, just one pissed off or complacent employee.
In the end, we humans are like the cast of Gilligan's Island. Sure, we can create a television out of bamboo, coconuts and palm trees but it's the two foot hole in the boat that often gives us the most problems.
My home is full of Sony electronics and I do not shop at WalMart. That is my rant, I'm off to play Katamari on my PS3.
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It just keeps getting worse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/bl ... ertainment
25 million users affected in a second attack that was recently discovered. I swear I can hear the gentle hum of the yackety sax music emanating from Sony headquarters.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/bl ... ertainment
25 million users affected in a second attack that was recently discovered. I swear I can hear the gentle hum of the yackety sax music emanating from Sony headquarters.
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Sony's lost all credibility from this point on. Their terrible security infrastructure isn't winning them any friends, that's for sure!
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Yet people still willingly give Facebook all the information anyone ever needs to steal their identity and don't mind when they sell it to whomever the want.Masakari wrote:Sony's lost all credibility from this point on. Their terrible security infrastructure isn't winning them any friends, that's for sure!
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frostdillicus wrote:Yet people still willingly give Facebook all the information anyone ever needs to steal their identity and don't mind when they sell it to whomever the want.Masakari wrote:Sony's lost all credibility from this point on. Their terrible security infrastructure isn't winning them any friends, that's for sure!
Still does not excuse Sony. Also, there is bank account numbers and credit card numbers that were compromised. I am pretty sure this never happened to facebook.
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