New Quickplay Rules - Reserved Slot and Stuff

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Valve has announced they're changing the rules for which servers can be quickplay servers and which can't.

The good news? TV6 (and potentially TV7 and others) can get added to quickplay even with its fastrespawn times. Granted, you'll have to add fastrespawn to the tags when searching but we're eligible now!

The bad news? Servers aren't allowed to kick players to make room for reserved slots players which means donators are going to lose their major perk in this community. This probably even means making room for an admin if there is a troublemaker on the server as well.


Any thoughts? Personally, I disliked that players would get kicked in order to make room for a donator. I had always wished there was a queue system and that donators could get bumped to the front of the line to enter the server.


EDIT: Here's a link containing the full Valve announcement: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1x ... from_hlds/

[Boss Llama]

We've been discussing this extensively in the admin forum. Too early to say how it will shake out, but it's not yet time to say that donator's are losing reserved slots, or anything else like that. We're The Ville, not Valve; we care about our players!

As a side note, TV6 and TV7 already were Quickplay enabled. They no longer will be eligible under the new rules, unless we change things. That's the main focus of our discussion.

[Perfect Villain]

Whatever is gonna happen, will happen but IMO i'd like to keep my reserve slot

[The Spanish Inquisition]

Pick one server and disable class limits(also a new stipulation) and slot reserve, then see what happens.

[Stevo]

We'll probably be opting out of Quickplay. Quickplay isn't as useful as it was when it first came out. Since then, Valve have increased the number of official servers and recently changed Quickplay to be limited to official by default. So to remove a substantial feature like class limits for the sake of Quickplay doesn't make sense to me. Reserved slots are necessary for admins to get into a full server when they are called on, and using hidden slots may imbalance the game and still allows for a full server.

[Gizanked]

Where is that "the stove has spoken" image?

[The Domer]

Where is that "the stove has spoken" image?

I don't know, but I made this stupid one.

[Perfect Villain]

No quickplay won't really change much could slow down seeding some other then that i see no big difference

[trilobite]

Regarding slot reserve: I hardly ever use it. If it goes away, I won’t really miss it. I am willing to wait. Sometimes I wait for up to 30 minutes. Ain’t no thang. I DO use the slot reserve sometimes if the wait drags on past 20 minutes or so (which hardly ever happens) or if TF2 crashes on my system. I then reload and slot reserve to get back (hopefully) to my team. Although I use slot reserve extremely rarely, I have no complaint if other supporters use it frequently.

Regarding implementation of slot reserve: Mummy refers to this continuing issue. As I understand it, the current implementation kicks a random, non-supporter – regardless of connect time. I know this is an ongoing issue. Just adding my voice of support for the development/repair of a non-random slot reserve operation.

Regarding QuickPlay: I have no data or other objective basis to evaluate this issue. However, I DO have anecdotal experience. My sense is that once Quickplay started, there was a daily stream of utterly strange newcomers on TV VI night-after-night. I noticed that few of them seemed to return to play again. True, some did and remain active today. But the bulk of newcomers showed up one day, played for a bit, then left – never to return. I am thinking that by choosing “Play Multiplayer,” there is no need to remember the name of any particular server. Just hit “Play Multiplayer” and off you go. The good news is, lots of random players show up and fill the server. The bad news is lots of random players show up and fill the server. For the occasional Quickplay player who enjoys playing on the Ville servers – and who makes a note of it as one of his/her server favorites, they are then confronted with long waits to join the server the following session -- because it is filled with a new batch random quickplay players.

What I am saying is that although the quickplay feature can introduce the Ville to many players who may not otherwise find us, it also can make it harder for interested quickplay newcomers to rejoin in following sessions. And this problem could discourage many who might just go back to hitting the “Play Multiplayer” button and move on.

[black_and_blue]

I gather there's no way to get stats on how many players join based on quickplay and how many by browsing servers?

I have a feeling that when they implement these new rules, there will be very few quickplay non-Valve servers left at all...

[The Spanish Inquisition]

How about turn fast respawn back on for tv7.

[ADevilishPotato]

How about turn fast respawn back on for tv7.

well as soon as they drop quickplay we can go back to a lot of fun things on tv7...including new map rotation?

[The Domer]

How about turn fast respawn back on for tv7.

Ew.

[NerevarineKing]

Hydro

[black_and_blue]

Hydro

I love Hydro, but unfortunately it really does seem to kill servers now. Used to be one of the most popular maps...