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Bots are gone again

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:12 am
by the creeper
No bots on Donner in IV.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:13 am
by Dog
VALVe brought out an update a month ago that removes all bots if there is no-one present.
After 10 seconds, I re-add them.
However it is conceivable that someone might join before the timer kicks in and bots don't show.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:07 pm
by the creeper
OK. Tseeneth told me there were about 5 people in IV when it crashed kicking everyone. When it came back up there were no bots. So that must have been it. I think i remember reading something about that but i didn't pay enough attention i guess. Thanks Dog.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:43 am
by Maurice Moss
not only were there no bots, but there were no environment effects either. It was weird because I was telling everyone how awesome it is to play with zombies. Some players had connected with no idea that server IV was the amazing Left4DoD mod. One such person switched to server IX and had a fun time for the next few hours. I can't remember when server IV came back up as Left4Dod but it wasn't down for very long, maybe an hour.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:49 am
by Dog
tv4 is very sick.
The latest VALVe update killed the Windows version.
Trying to work through a few offsets as the server crashes once a player dies.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:26 am
by v.o.c
maybe you should get a job at valve Dog and show them how to update stuff without breaking everything else.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:00 am
by Dog
This time it's a SourceMod issue. Valve moved stuff around in their code and SourceMod hooks no longer work for creating entities (Windows only). In other works, drops cannot be created, nor can gas clouds, bombs etc without crashing the server.
Frustrating

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:08 pm
by olboy53
No bots on IX server reset then no bots

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:44 pm
by Aardvark Ratnick
v.o.c wrote:maybe you should get a job at valve Dog and show them how to update stuff without breaking everything else.
Screw that noise! Pardon the language but I feel very strongly on this. Dog working for Valve!? Are you out of your ever loving mind! They will take him off L4DOD and DOD:S all together! The game will die! Now if we could somehow stage a coup d'etat making him the owner and run the company, now we're talking!
Dog wrote:This time it's a SourceMod issue. Valve moved stuff around in their code and SourceMod hooks no longer work for creating entities (Windows only). In other works, drops cannot be created, nor can gas clouds, bombs etc without crashing the server.
Frustrating
Typical. Valve breaks all you hard work with one update. I don't know what use I could be but if you need help, Dog, let me know. I will do what I can.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:12 pm
by <eVa> + Sarge +
Dog, can you run both servers on Linux and avoid the Windows issues?

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:21 pm
by <eVa> + Sarge +
Bots are gone again on IV, most of the day I think.

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:24 pm
by <eVa> + Sarge +
Nevermind! They are there, just not showing up on the server details... :P

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:33 pm
by Dog
Latest update for TF2 did that.
When they removed the bots listing in MvM, they also removed them for DoDS as well.

I just haven't updated TV9 yet, which is why they are still showing.
I'm tempted to take the non-updated files off TV9 and put them on TV4!

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:05 am
by Tseeneth
Bots are gone on server IV... Anzio map...

And guess who are running the map anyway?
Hey guys... When you start into a party with no bots, just quit...
There is no need to run and cap 30 flags to see that bots aren't there...
You guys really sucks!

:evil:

Re: Bots are gone again

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:40 am
by Dog
Like I said, VALVe added this feature when the last person on the server leaves, the bots are removed.
I add them 10s later.
However, if someone leaves and returns within the 10s, then the bots won't reappear.
I'll look at the coding again.

To get them back, you just need to change maps.