Some Answers Are Here for the Unlocks

[Rits]

[quote="TheCarpe";p="174513"]
In the achievement days, if you didn't go to an achievement server, it would usually take you a week or so of solid play to earn all your weapons. It's been two days, people. Stop complaining that you haven't gotten everything.

All of these reactions are very telling. I'm happy to not see people runing around with the new weapons an hour after the update because some impatient jerk had to be the first one on his block to have a Sandman. Would I like a Huntsman or an Ambassador? Of course, I'd llike one. I'd love both. And you know what? I'm gonna keep playing and eventually I'll get them.

People. Seriously. Calm down
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People do need to vent though, and I think it's perfectly okay as long as it's a relatively PG rated vent. I haven't seen anyone getting out of control while venting about the achievement system.


Everyone will vent, valve will fix bugs, people will still play tf2 and sooner or later we'll all have our new unlocks and this will all be over.

[Tarrock]

the thing that's ticking people off like me and bronze fox is that we both have 3 force-a-natures. It would be fine and dandy if the trade system would of been put in place with the update instead of being planned as a future update.

Should of perhaps made the chances of getting the spy and sniper items increased by a massive margin and limited the items to 2 of each till something easier was added.

[ScurvySD]

[quote="TheCarpe";p="174513"]In the achievement days, if you didn't go to an achievement server, it would usually take you a week or so of solid play to earn all your weapons. It's been two days, people. Stop complaining that you haven't gotten everything.

All of these reactions are very telling. I'm happy to not see people runing around with the new weapons an hour after the update because some impatient jerk had to be the first one on his block to have a Sandman. Would I like a Huntsman or an Ambassador? Of course, I'd llike one. I'd love both. And you know what? I'm gonna keep playing and eventually I'll get them.

People. Seriously. Calm down [/quote]I'd appreciate it if you didn't keep insulting people who like to play the game differently than you. They aren't cheaters or jerks for enjoying unlocking items.

[Guardian]

Steam forums are on whine level 10 about this, which was thought to be impossible. Perviously even the prepatch sandman only got it to 8.

What's whine level 10?

LONG well-thought out posts about the unlock system appearing every half-an-hour or so. Also ways to fix it are included in each post. Also other whine topics like "PYRO IS OP" and "ZOMG NEW THING MAKES MY OLD PLAYSTYLE BAD" aren't appearing at all. It's amazing.

Valve does listen to the steam forums so I expect a change to the system on monday.

In the meantime while I sleep I'm going to stay on those achievement_idle servers to get my unlock. Yep, that's right instead of unlock griding we have servers where you go afk. Also a bunch of people are jumping on our servers and picking Dog's class the whole match.

[Novacaine]

The only thing in recent memory to rival the current whine level on the steam forums would be the 225hp backburner Pyro.... and we all know what happened to him.

Edit: oops, I meant happened to her....

[Novacaine]

[quote="Guardian";p="174534"]

In the meantime while I sleep I'm going to stay on those achievement_idle servers to get my unlock. Yep, that's right instead of unlock griding we have servers where you go afk. Also a bunch of people are jumping on our servers and picking Dog's class the whole match.[/quote]

I'm doing the same, I feel lucky so far... I've gotten the ambassador and Huntsman. I'm still trying to find a way to wield my 3 Natachas.

I don't feel a bit bad about idling for unlocks. There's nothing I can do with skill or strategy alone to affect the outcome of what unlocks i'll receive or not receive, so why not just afk for hours. Reminds me of people who wrote .scripts to fish for themselves all day in everquest.....

Imagine how those who worked hard for their first achievement based unlocks (getting them legit, by playing the game and trying hard to earn them)....Imagine how they must feel getting 2 more Natachas by doing nothing after working so hard just to unlock the first one.

[Jesus_Faction]

The main problem with the system right now is that the player can not affect what drops he gets. Hopefully valve will change that in the near future

[Thorn]

[quote="Jesus_Faction";p="174551"]The main problem with the system right now is that the player can not affect what drops he gets. Hopefully valve will change that in the near future[/quote]

THIS is my major gripe. Its like we got our hands tied behind out backs. Why should someone enjoy the new unlocks before someone else who has played 4 times as much? oh wait, its dumb luck... oh no wait... its because they go AFK for hours on a server... this is much better

[abiscuit]

I just want to play with the new toys, that's all.

[Bronze Fox]

[quote="Tarrock";p="174526"]the thing that's ticking people off like me and bronze fox is that we both have 3 force-a-natures.[/quote]

No, I've only gotten a Sandman and a Clock and Dagger.

[Rits]

You want one of my 3 FaN's, Bronze? [quote="Bronze Fox";p="174571"]
[quote="Tarrock";p="174526"]the thing that's ticking people off like me and bronze fox is that we both have 3 force-a-natures.[/quote]

No, I've only gotten a Sandman and a Clock and Dagger.
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[TheCarpe]

Probably be best if I just back out of this thread and not come back. My feelings on the matter are drastically different from 98% of the TF2 community so all I'm going to do is exacerbate the hard feelings already in this thread.

Enjoy your unlocks. Because you will get them. Patience is a virtue.

[Guardian]

I think this sums up the frustration about the update: http://fakkelbrigade.eu/cake/mmo_update_pt1.jpg


Seriously if valve does what Jesus said and I can make it so I don't get the flare gun for the 10th time, I'll be happy.

Also meet the Spectator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLXqDEGeNn4

[eraD]

[quote="TheCarpe";p="174595"]Probably be best if I just back out of this thread and not come back. My feelings on the matter are drastically different from 98% of the TF2 community so all I'm going to do is exacerbate the hard feelings already in this thread.

Enjoy your unlocks. Because you will get them. Patience is a virtue.[/quote]

[Cpt. Winky]

I do appreciate valves attempt at reducing the tidal wave of people trying to play sniper and spy, but the drop system is a bit rough. had they made it more rigid as in "play X hours of sniper, get unlock A, Y hours for unlock B and Z hours for unlock C", it would allow people to get their weapons quicker and know exactly when they would get the achievements. Yes, we would still have hordes of people trying to play those classes, but of what I have seen, alot of servers are maxed out on snipers and spies, so it cant get much worse. I feel somewhat left out as I dont always have time to play TF2, let alone the amount of time it seems is needed to get unlocks, so while I still may get them, it will be at a point where most people will know the pros\cons of each weapon and know how to use them effectively efficiently, whereas i am a bumbling moron with them who just unlocked them 5 seconds ago and am at somewhat of a disadvantage. I look forward to getting them, just hopefully before everyone else masters the spy weapons and my sniper days become numbered.